Italian gas boilers Baxi and Fondital - which one is better?

Comparison of the most popular models of boilers Baxi, Vaillant, Viessmann, Buderus, Protherm

BAXI Eco Four 24

Advantages:

• The boiler design combines two circuits - heating and hot water supply - with a water heater.
• Unification of used energy resources from natural to liquefied gas.
• Automation clearly controls the set mode of operation, adjusting the work to possible changes.
• Low noise from the operating unit, coupled with a stylish design and simple installation.

Disadvantages:

The "smart" system is extremely dependent on the stability of the power supply, which requires the obligatory connection of the unit through a voltage stabilizer.

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Buderus Logamax U052-24K

Advantages:

• The design of compact dimensions allows you to solve the issues of heating and hot water supply in an apartment or house in a limited space.
• A closed combustion chamber does not change the air conditioning mode.
• LED display with temperature indication for easy operation.
• A number of protective systems - from anti-blocking of the pump to "Anti-freeze".

Disadvantages:

To ensure the normal functioning of all boiler systems, its installation must be carried out by qualified specialists with a mandatory check of all operating modes.

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Protherm Cheetah 23MTV

Advantages:

• A novelty on the Russian market with forced discharge of combustion waste.
• The heating modules are made of chrome-nickel steel for a longer service life.
• The modulating burner ensures smooth regulation of the boiler power, guarantees efficient use of fuel and favorable efficiency.
• The regulated bypass is combined with a closed expansion vessel, a safety valve and a three-way valve, which protects against overheating and blocking of systems.
• Work in three modes - summer, winter and vacation.

Disadvantages:

Effective for heating rooms with a total area of ​​up to 200 sq.m. When calculating the capacity in conjunction with DHW, it is recommended to use a reduction factor.

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Viessmann Vitodens 100-W

Advantages:

• Wall-hung condensing boiler with an attractive output range.
• Modern matrix cylindrical burner.
• The automation has a power limitation option with the possibility of installing a room temperature sensor in combination with an electronic control unit for DHW parameters.
• The maximum noise level is 38 dB.
• Self-descaling effect due to the smooth surface of the stainless steel heat exchanger and the possibility of redirecting the movement of flue gases.

Disadvantages:

More complex installation of a condensing boiler with the peculiarities of arranging a coaxial chimney (angle of inclination).

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Vaillant VUW INT 242-5-H

Advantages:

• Wall-hung condensing boiler with an attractive output range.
• The choice of consumers who value comfort and increased safety.
• The presence of a modulating burner improves the controllability of power parameters.
• Combustion waste is disposed of through a coaxial chimney.
• Service with front access to the main components.
• Intelligent pressure control in the heating system with automated troubleshooting via diagnostics.

Disadvantages:

The electronic filling of the boiler is very sensitive to power supply fluctuations, and its repair is expensive.

All gas boilers Vaillant

When choosing the option that is optimal for you, we recommend focusing on the technical characteristics of the boilers, compliance with the requirements.

For apartment heating, gas boilers Protherm and BAXI are more efficient. They are also suitable for heating a private house, but Vaillant, Buderus and Viessmann will do better with this.

Our advantages:

• we work around the clock
• we have existed since 1999
• own emergency service
• own service department
• repair of heating of any kind
• repair of water supply systems
• restoration of boiler equipment
• redevelopment and replacement of pipes

DESIGN PRESTIGE LLC reliable partner

Junkers ↑

Junkers gas boiler

Junkers (Junkers) - a company with a century of history, the founder of which Hugo Junkers - a talented engineer and inventor - developed his heating technology in parallel with progressive aircraft construction. Today it belongs to the corporation "Bosch Gruppe" and is one of the largest manufacturers of heating equipment in the world, characterized by well-known German quality, while maintaining, in contrast to another division of the same corporation, the brand "Buderus", quite loyal prices. The range of Junkers gas boilers includes:

• stationary (floor) cast iron sectional boilers;
• wall-mounted gas boilers, single-circuit / double-circuit, with / without chimneys and with / without a control panel;
• condensing single-circuit / double-circuit gas boilers;
• water-heating flowing columns with various types of ignition (ignition from batteries, from a turbine, piezo ignition);

The video shows the device and the range of Junkers speakers:

baxi, proterm or navien what else would you recommend for 100m sq.

If you need a cheap boiler, then of course Proterm, if you decide to invest in an expensive one, then of course Vailant (Proterm, a cheaper trademark of this manufacturer). It makes sense to buy a Baksi only if they sell it to you very cheaply (there are huge discounts on them), a good service network of the advantages, but cheap models such as Main Fore are all rubbish! Navn is generally a temporary cauldron for the harsh punishment of sinners! Everyone who was foisted on it goes bankrupt during operation and loses its nerves with constant and regular breakdowns, and the service service boils down to telephone advice and the sale of very expensive spare parts by mail. Therefore, many throw out Navien without waiting for the end of the first heating season. Viessmann boilers are of absolute German quality and reliability, amazing survivability proven by many years of Russian operation, minus they are more expensive than all of the above.

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This is your spread - to compare Baksi with Navien ... Like Opel with Zaporozhets - both rides, but how ... If there is a possibility - take Baksi - excellent boilers of a good company with a very developed service network ...

Ariston ↑

Ariston gas boilers have advanced functionality and a set of operation indicators.

Ariston (Ariston) - one of the leading world leaders in the production of household appliances, including heating. Translated from Greek, the name and the company has been making every effort to live up to its name for many decades (created in 1930). A distinctive feature of Ariston boilers is their elegant ergonomic design and compactness, combined with high efficiency and noiselessness. The head office of the brand is located in Italy, but production sites are located in different countries of the world: Italy, France, Turkey, Poland, Portugal and Russia. The range of gas boilers of the company includes:

• wall-mounted / floor-standing condensing boilers;
• wall-mounted gas boilers.

Ariston gas boilers are divided into three main series: Genus, Clas, Egis. Genus is a series with the richest functionality, the Egis series focuses on stylish design and compactness, but at the same time boilers of this series have no less high efficiency and are equipped with intelligent control, but the Clas series boilers are the most economical and practical, being a reasonable compromise between versatility and price.The video shows a new line of wall-hung boilers (Galileo Evolution project), 2013.

Five leaders in the production of gas heating equipment

The vast majority of heating gas equipment is represented on the domestic market of climatic equipment by European manufacturers, as well as by some representatives of the Asia-Pacific Economic Community. Among the most popular in our country are the manufacturers of gas boilers from Germany, Italy, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and South Korea.

The first line in the popularity rating is shared by German gas boilers manufactured by the Vaillant Group and. The German brand “Buderus” shares the second place among the most demanded manufacturers with the German holding Viessmann, and the third place was taken by the Slovak concern “Protherm” and the Italian one.

Next, the lineup of each brand, design and operational features of heating devices will be considered.

Model manufacturers

The Italian manufacturer Baxi is in great demand on the Russian market. Almost all regions of the country have service centers that repair equipment. The assembly of models and the release of parts are carried out in the homeland of the brand and in a number of European countries. Models with a capacity of 18-24 kW are supplied to the Russian market.

The Slovak manufacturer Protherm is known and distributed in all regions of the Russian Federation. The service network of this manufacturer is also widely represented in all major regions of Russia. The company produces boilers on its territory, components are manufactured in Slovakia and Germany. The line of models imported to Russia is 11-23 kW.

The Korean manufacturer Navien was introduced to the world relatively recently, but thanks to its practical design and affordable cost, the boilers of this manufacturer quickly became popular. The production of parts and the assembly of boilers is carried out directly in South Korea.

A very wide range of models with a capacity of 10-40 kW is supplied to Russia.

Protherm Cheetah 23 MOV

Specifications:

• double-circuit boiler;
• an open combustion chamber is installed in it;
• the volume of the expansion tank is 5 liters;
• hot water dispensing capacity is 1.5–11 l / min;
• consumes power in the range from 10.4 to 25.8 kW;
• useful power is 9–23.3 kW;
• hot water temperature adjustable from 38 to 60 ° C;
• overall dimensions (H / W / D) - 742/410/311 mm;
• weight is 31 kg;
• heat exchanger - stainless steel plate;
• works under a pressure of 1–10 atm;
• the consumption of liquefied gas is 1.9 kg / h, and natural gas - 2.73 m³ / h;
• productivity is 90.3%.

Model Description

The wall-mounted heating boiler has a built-in LCD display and mechanical control using buttons. The screen displays the data of the device, which allows you to constantly monitor the heating process. Reliable burner made of chrome-nickel alloy.

The control is carried out using a room thermostat. The safety of the device is ensured by built-in sensors for traction control, water consumption, and flame control.

The boiler is equipped with anti-freeze, anti-jamming three-way valve and pump functions. The built-in diagnostic system monitors the status of the device, finds and identifies malfunctions.

Advantages and disadvantages

Easy to install and maintain, ergonomic, reliable, compact, works in winter-summer-vacation modes. A large number of service settings allows you to choose the most convenient operating mode.

The disadvantages are low power, high gas consumption, sensitivity to impurities in water. When the water is heated, the heating is turned off and vice versa.

Installation in rooms without a chimney is impossible, for the arrangement of which certain requirements are imposed. Requires additional air supply, cannot be used in a room with forced draft.

Installation and instruction

Upon receipt of the heater, check the equipment, appearance, warranty card and complete operating instructions. Installation, connection, adjustment and initial start-up of the heating boiler should be carried out only by a specialist of the manufacturer.

During operation, the following points must be taken into account:

• repair, replacement of parts or parts of equipment are carried out in special service centers;
• changing the various settings must also be carried out by a specialist;
• all inscriptions on the boiler body must be preserved throughout the entire period of operation;
• Failure to comply with these points during the warranty period enables the company to withdraw the warranty.

Wall mounted boilers Baksi

manufactures both floor-standing and wall-mounted boilers. Among the wall ones, one can distinguish such popular models as:

• nuvola-3 comfort;
• nuvola - 3;
• luna - 3;
• main tour;
• eco tour.

NUVOLA - 3It has built-in water heater volume of 40 liters, copper primary heat exchanger and high power. It is specially designed for those who consume a lot of hot water. Boiler performance reaches 900 liters per hour. Due to the existing digital display, you can see data on the operation of the equipment, as well as on existing faults.
Boiler model "NUVOLA-3 Comfort" has a larger volume than all others in the NUVOLA line (60 l) and is equipped with a digital display.

Luna-3is a complex of a floor-standing water heater with a volume of 80 liters and a boiler placed on the wall. Also, in this complex, the boiler does not have to be mounted on the wall, it can also be installed on the boiler. The connection is simple and convenient. The kit comes with low temperature circuit heating ("warm floor"). Despite the power of the system, it is quite compact and can fit in small rooms.

The smallest in size, but no less powerful are the boilers of the line "ECO Four". Their main advantages are ease of installation and operation. Boilers are produced both with one circuit and with two, as well as with an open and closed chamber. They are equipped with a liquid crystal display.

Boilers "MAIN Four" suitable for heating apartments. They are an improved model of the MAIN Digit boiler. The equipment is very compact, has high power and performance. They are easy to use and maintain.

This material will help you make the right choice of gas:

Alphatherm (Alfatherm) ↑

Floor-standing Alphatherm Beta series gas boilers are manufactured in Italy and a number of Eastern European countries.

Alphatherm (Alfatherm) is an Italian brand of boiler equipment for domestic and industrial use. Production sites are located not only in Italy, but also in Slovenia, the Czech Republic and Hungary. In its assortment it has a very wide range of gas equipment:

• wall-mounted / floor-standing gas boilers, single-circuit / double-circuit;
• combined gas / diesel boilers;
• water heaters of indirect heating.

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Irina K. ★★★★★ Advantages:

The previous real Italian worked for 17 years.
Constantine G. ★★★★★ Advantages:
Convenient compact good design
Disadvantages:
Inconvenient temperature controller
Comment:
A purely Itolyan water heater of nefig was not made for consumables reliably and for centuries. Buy you can't go wrong with choosing a great thing

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123 3. ★★ Advantages:

Unknown
Disadvantages:
Out of order quickly
Comment:
They wanted to buy 50 liters. But they were afraid that the wall would not stand. The house is old, wooden. In short, this device heats the water slowly. Hot water with good pressure is enough for a 3 minute shower. Further - if you did not have time to rinse everything, then wash yourself cold. I had to reduce the pressure by 3 times.It barely pours, but it is enough to completely wash. Consumes a lot of energy. The payment for the light has increased from 200 rubles. up to 1500 p. But this is probably because we always have it at the maximum. It's okay, the most important thing. After 2 years of use, it started to leak from under the hose connection, top cover, bottom cover, screws. Multiple streaks started a week ago. And today from all these holes and cracks poured streams. Disconnected. So tomorrow I'm going to buy a new one. But another firm. In principle, you can do the same. All the same, all Chinese.

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Nadir Gataullin ★★★★★ Advantages:

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hipi h. ★★★★★ Advantages:

price. will understand for cleaning.
Disadvantages:
not
Comment:
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Ivan M. ★★★★ Advantages:

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Disadvantages:
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Alexander ★★★★ Advantages:

Heats up quickly, cools down for a long time.
Disadvantages:
No thermometer. The heating temperature selection knob is not very informative. On the other hand, I exhibited it once and practically did not touch her.
Comment:
The family is three adults and two children. There is no shortage of hot water. Two switches, as I understand it, for 1 and 0.5 kV. It is switched on constantly at 1. The heating rate is satisfactory. Turning off the hours at 10-11 pm - in the morning the water remains hot. Thermos). I am satisfied with the purchase. For the second year we have not been left without hot water. Last year I changed pipes for plastic and at the same time connected them. I did not ask the master for help. I connected it myself. I was just changing pipes for plastic. I borrowed a soldering iron from my father-in-law, an acquaintance from work explained how to lay pipes. Just either look for a wall for fastening stronger (gypsum will not work), or a masthead base, as in my case.

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Alexander K. ★ Advantages:

Beautiful
Disadvantages:
Flanets served for one week. Not repairable.
Comment:
Ran a week later. He pulled up the flanders. After 2 weeks I ran again. The studs are welded and made of plasticine. There are no threads for 2. They will not take it under warranty. He pulled with a 10 cm key. Hands grow from the right place. Never take a product from this manufacturer. Every year I clean my mother-in-law's NoName water heater. In addition, the pins on the flange are 2 times thicker. The gasket on the flange is 2 times wider. And the thread on the studs does not break. Terrible manufacturer. I just threw out 6 thousand. It's a shame, I'm finishing it after a few months. I gave the tank to the welder. He welded a patch in place of the flange. I welded the thread under the ten in the patch. It seems an inch and a quarter. Now you can screw another heating element into it on the thread. But since already bought a water heater from Ariston found this tank a different purpose. I use it as a heat accumulator. To do this, I welded another 3/4 inch piece of thread into the tank. The standard narrow threads are plugged in. As a result, the tank serves well. I'm even glad that Baxi is being sold such an outspoken leftist. The tank itself seems to be of high quality. Quite thick and enamel seems to be as it is.
Alex A. ★★★★★ Advantages:
Large with good thermal insulation and temperature arrow.
Disadvantages:
Inconvenient pressure valve. Heavy, barely hung up with his wife in the toilet. It is better to use an anchor with hooks. Pay attention to the dimensions.
Comment:
When I tried to drain the water using the pressure valve, I spilled a lot by, I realized that the diagram was not drawn in vain. I gray it, then I turn it off. Ouzo is not, and it is not needed with such a volume. While satisfied, let's look at the heating elements after a while.

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Denis G. ★★★★★ Advantages:

As a budget model, a normal boiler. I have worked for my parents for five years and continues to work. The only thing was that the magnesium anode was replaced in terms of production and the heating element was cleaned. The wall of the tank is in excellent condition. I also bought one myself.
Comment:
Put a filter in front of the boiler entrance, to protect against mechanical impurities of our water supply, and clean the tank (heating element area) at least once every two years. Well, if you need some other bells and whistles (electronic-computer, gilding ) - this is definitely not Baksi.

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eugene f. ★★★★ Advantages:

It reliably ignites at low pressure and water consumption, does not burn, does not make noise, relatively stable water temperature.
Disadvantages:
I think the disadvantages are insignificant: - the cooling metal crackles when turned off; - I expected greater temperature stability.
Comment:
When you open the second tap (in the sense of the point of parsing water), the water temperature drops by 4-5 degrees. It's too early to talk about reliability, we use it for a little less than two months. Previously, we used the Soviet "neva". What can I say, this one is more convenient)))
Stanislav S. ★★ Advantages:
Everything seems to be beautiful and high quality. And even heats the water quite well. Quiet.
Disadvantages:
A couple of times it was buggy. The temperature sensor on the screen broke after two years. The sensor costs more than 1tr. After two years and eight months, the heat exchanger began to flow in two places.! Before that there was Neva 4513. The heat exchanger worked for 5 years. Baksi do not seem to know how to make high-quality gas water heaters. Do not take.

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Alexander M. ★★★★★ Advantages:

Does not burn, keeps temperature, works with low water pressure.
Disadvantages:
Not
Sergey Bukhteev ★★★★★ Advantages:
No problem, great device
Disadvantages:
Not detected
Comment:
Much better than a semi-Chinese made in Russia samopal

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r ★★★★★ Advantages:

Everything is done as it should.
Disadvantages:
Water inlet at an awkward angle.
Comment:
For some reason, this column is poorly promoted. But in vain. People look at boshes, vailants and so on, which are no longer cakes, as they used to be. In principle, I don’t want to mess with the Chinese - you just look at their thin tubes of the heat exchanger, flimsy waterworks, as if made of foil, and it’s hard to believe that the column is working. Neva ... also somehow did not impress with the reviews, and the price tag of the column with the necessary functionality is not domestic at all. I was looking purposefully with a gas reducer (flame modulation), with a brass hydraulic unit with a reducer, and without newfangled plastic baubles in the connections, and so that less electronics - without batteries. With protection against extinction, the column on the wick suits me perfectly - the meter does not respond to the wick. From the protection - there are all the necessary: ​​from the extinguishing of the wick, overheating of the heat exchanger and clogging of the chimney. The column started working right out of the box, without tambourines and settings. Water inlet, though at an uncomfortable angle, but everything is solved by plastic pipes. It ignites quite quietly, without explosions. I have the last floor, but the column starts vigorously, because the cross-section of the tubes on the heat exchanger is decent, and in the working part it is also enlarged, like that of the famous Mohr column. The heat exchanger itself is painted to protect copper from oxidation - let's see what happens next. The column responds adequately to the controls, especially the "water flow", which is very unusual for me.Before that, there was a Proton column - so it simply did not ignite when adjusting the water. The handle was constantly at the maximum. And here the water handle is in the middle and the column does not react at all to the flush tank or open cold water. The column reacts a little to the second open hot water tap - the water becomes a little cooler, well, the pressure drops, of course - I have the last floor. In general, the design pleased me - everything is done visually reliably, inspires confidence. Of course, it is too early to judge the reliability - if there are incidents, I will definitely add a review. While the flight is normal.

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